WLW & Channel 5 news deal
Yes, WLW-AM has blown off Clear Channel sister station WKRC-TV to do a news partnership with WLWT (Channel 5). What a shock at Channel 12. They didn't see it coming, and didn't know about it until told Thursday morning.
When Clear Channel corporate gave the radio station permission to ditch Ch 12 a week or two ago, Channel 5 jumped at the opportunity. Duh! Channel 5 is third in the ratings, while WLW has been No. 1 for six years.
PD Darryl Parks says: “I know Clear Channel gets rapped for ‘cram downs’ on stations, but the radio stations truly are run autonomously.” This would be proof.
The deal starts August 1. Channel 12 will continue to service the 7 other Clear Channel stations here.
Some history: WLW radio was sold off by Channel 5’s owners in the 1970s. The two stations had a weather/news relationship in the early 1990s, when Pat Barry did weather at Channel 5.
But soon expect to hear a lot about Jim O’Brien, Sandra Ali, Sheree Paolello, Lisa Cooney, Derek Beasley on the air by Willie and the gang....
Super show for coaster fans
Roller coaster lovers should set the DVR for “SuperCoasters” (8-10 p.m. Monday, National Geographic Channel). It’s a great look at the science behind coasters, including how Paramount Kings Island’s Flight of Fear slings people from 0 to 50 mph in 4 seconds. More than half of the film was shot on the big thrill rides at Cedar Point, the flagship park of the company buying PKI from CBS. PKI season pass holders will wonder if the new owners will build similar huge coasters here in coming years. Let's hope.
AFLAC!
Comedian Gilbert Gottfried – seen often on Jay Leno’s “Tonight Show” sketches – plays Go Bananas comedy club in Montgomery tonight through Sunday. He’s done tons of stuff, but his voice might be best known as the AFLAC duck. Tickets are $25. Info at
http://www.gobananascomedy.com/index.php
Sunday night sports ratings
You asked for it, you got it: The #1 Sunday night local sports show from 11:30 p.m-midnight is Channel 9’s “Sports of All Sorts,” with a 4.2 rating and 10.5% audience share. Next are Channel 5’s “Sports Rock” (3.6 rating/10%), and Channel 12’s “Sports Authority” (3.4 rating/9% share). “SOAS” is the only one that goes a full hour, and the audience drops off at midnight for an hour average of 3.4/10%.
posted by John Kiesewetter at 10:17 AM
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Post a Comment*When was the last time WLW radio generated a local news story on its own?
All I ever hear are those alledged news staffers ripping off sound-bites and stories Channel 12.
WKRC-TV will want to monitor 700 closely to see if that practice continues.
On the plus side, maybe 700 will have enough new "talent" from Channel 5, to enable more people from its staff to be fired.
If I worked in the 700 newsroom or traffic department, I'd be sending out many resumes.
So how will the legals handle Willie and his discussions about Sandra Ali's lips?
As far as logistics, I don't see a COMEX building relationship.
Could we see WLWT's newscasts at 11pm or 5AM be simulcast?
Too bad WLWT isn't coming to terms with their current reporters leaving next week. What an opportunity.
Gee, to hear John London back on WLW. (A Twilight Zone moment)
hey anonymous, do tell who's outta there now?
Word is Bina Roy and Juliette Vara
Sounds to me like WLW is going back the the way it was many moons ago(when we were growing up,Kies).
WLW, WLW D-Dayton,WLW-C Columbus and WLW-I Indianapolis.
And of course the days of "The nation's station", Music til Dawn and Moon river(yes i do remember these)will never come back.. My great aunt who lived in St Louis was listening to Moon river the night that Bobby Kennedy was shot.
That was one powerful transmitter!
Lee Ann
Wonder what would happen if WLW was sold to Hearst Argyle and then WKRC-TV, WKRC-AM, WKRQ-FM were sold to RadioActive. Talk about bringing back real competitive radio and Television. Gee, maybe 3 competitive radio news departments again. Could dumpster diving come back?
You guys are amusing.
WLW's reporters are on the streets generating nenws stories all the time. Channel 12 audio is great to use, but it's not always done.
As for WLW being sold to RadioActive, unless you are Randy Michaels himself giving us some insight, that's a ridiculous notion.
The four CBS Radio stations are for sale, and randy may be a bidder. But I think WARM 98's new owners may end up with two more stations in that deal.
It's true, WLW does NOT always use Channel 12's audio. You can tell the difference because the clips they steal from 12 are the ones you can actually hear.
So....looking at your sports show analysis, if '9' drops off in the final half hour....wouldn't that make '5' number one and not number two?
Just wondering...
WLW TV is running a helpful story this evening (5-26) on how to cope if you're still without electricity.
It's for the folks with battery powered TV's, I guess.
as of today at 8:11pm the only people from the cincy area reporter wise listed at medialine.com are marjani coffey formerly wstr 64 and bina roy of news 5 evidently someone snapped up Juliette vara very quickly
Why is all the talk on here about 5 the worst newscast. We should be talking about the best newscast in ohio local 12. Local 12 won an awar.
Local 12 the best? Who comes up with that crap over there like wheel of justice?
I'm surprised they haven't made a video with Deborah Dixon singing "Spinning Wheel" or Sasha singing "rueca". (Spinning Wheel, get it?)
All I can say is that the associated press gave the award to 12 because it is the best. Come on give channel 5, 5 years and they will still be in the dumpster. look how much 5 lost the ratings book. they got whooped. If i was richard dyer I would fire the news director, he is the one bringing the station down.
I agree the news director at 5 should be fired. Ever since he came 5 has been in the dumps. As long as he is still there, thats were they will be the dumps.
Look at the turnover and shifting of people and their talents.
Perhaps they need to bring back someone from the glory days and reinvigerate the staff, rehire some members, clean house and revive the spirit that they once had.
Who is balsy enough at 5 to fire up the troops to the theme of Rocky? Jerry did.
Does anyone miss former Ch. 5 anchor Anne Marie Tiernon? I thought she was MUCH better than Sandra Ali. I thought Dave and Anne Marie did a great job together. Anne Marie always seemed very positive.
yeah ann marie was a good anchor, but she wanted to go back to indy to be with her family. she is now doing anchor at noon and 530.
didn't she sub for Tricia on 19?
12's ratings will go down because they will no longer be partnered with WLW radio. Watch it...it will happen.
There are two reasons 12 may have good ratings.....CBS programming is so damn good and the partnership with WLW.
I am surprised anyone watches 12. Give me Trish the dish or Sandra Ali over Kit anytime....
5's ratings will skyrocket. It will happen.
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didn't she sub for Tricia on 19?
5/28/2006 1:25 AM
The sub was Caroline Thau
To the poster who said, "It will happen", you need to get real. WLW only featured Channel 12's meteorologists anyway, and half the time, WLW's hosts were ripping their newscast. WLW's ratings only account for about for about 2% of the total market population. Do you REALLY think that all of those people watching CBS are going to sudenly flip to Channel 5 because WLW told them to?
Bottom line: Clear Channel is getting $$$ from Hearst in this deal. Clear Channel top dogs KNOW that Channel 12 will be minimally impacted by it, and figure the $$$ is worth it for WLW.
Channel 12 will STILL be featured on the other 7 Clear Channel stations by company edict, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear them cut a deal with B105 and WGRR to take Channel 5's place there. That would more than recover any audience lost by the WLW move. WLW typically has about 350,000 listeners per week. WUBE and WGRR combined have well over 420,000.
How can you believe that WLW will have that much effect when 90% of radios are not listening to it?
silly question--I'm never home at Noon for Ch. 5....who currently anchors that newscast? Just wondering.....
lisa cooney is the anchor the noon newscast. The problem they aren't getting ratings is because of montel. He doesn't provide any leadin.
how 'bout the fact that ch. 5 has a terrible noon newscast? might that have something to do with the low ratings?
just a thought...
I guess I must be missing out. I haven't watched a local newscast in probably 3 years or more.
Anymore, I just check web sites if I want the news. The weather is available online on on one of the 24 hour weather channels and everything else is on the web.
Maybe i'm unique, but I'll bet that the percentage of people watching newscasts has to be dropping.
The problem with those 24 hour weather channels is that they are based in say, Atlanta and forecast for the entire country. There is no possible way they can be accurate on a forecast for Washington State if they are halfway across the country. Don't depend on the reliability and accuracy of those forecasts.
Anonymous said...
The problem with those 24 hour weather channels is that they are based in say, Atlanta and forecast for the entire country. There is no possible way they can be accurate on a forecast for Washington State if they are halfway across the country. Don't depend on the reliability and accuracy of those forecasts.
5/29/2006 12:28 PM
all the models and data that our forecasters all come from the same place the omly difference is who says what
all the models and data that our forecasters all come from the same place the omly difference is who says what
5/29/2006 1:50 PM
Not true.
One station gets their info from Accuweather, One from NWS. I am not sure about the other two. You'd figure that 5 having 3.1 meteorologists on staff, 9 having 3, 19 having 1.6 and 12 having 5 meteorologists, that there is independence.
Just remember, only the National Weather Service can issue Tornado Warnings. Tell channel 9 that!
I think what the above poster is saying (the one talking about the 24 hour weather channels), is that forecasters at Weather Plus or The Weather Channel aren't as familiar with the local geography and topography and climatic trends that say a local meteorologist would have in his/her area. The forecasts you see on the Local on the 8's are straight rip and read from model data or from the NWS.
Our local meteorologists, regardless of what station they work for actually take pride in creating their OWN forecasts from scratch, rather than copying and pasting what the NWS says. They feel like they are doing the viewer a disservice with anything BUT that. A lot of times you will find that those that don't have a solid background in meteorology (non-degreed meteorologists) will copy and paste NWS forecasts because they don't know how to forecast and refuse to take the time to learn.
Severe weather situations will always separate the "men from boys" and the "women from girls". That's when you find out who is the real severe weather leader in your area.
Don't even get me started on the insanity of the weather wars...
These folks have evolved into nothing more than scare-meisters, thereby hoping you'll watch them.
We all know, they keep us safe.
And isn't that why we watch TV?
Please....
I think you need to look to the news directors if you feel that way. It's the aggressive news directors that believe in overkill when it comes to weather coverage. Don't blame the meteorologists.
Now with WCPO and their recent pseudotornadoes that's a different story.
Anyone see that Karin Johnson is coming back to Cincinnati to take Juiette Vara's place at News 5?
Karin Johnson is at the Sinclair duopoly in Dayton - no way she's headed to WLWT.
She starts the week after Vara leaves. Thanks for playing!
where did you see that johnson is returning to cinci ?
I didn't have to see. I work at 5. She starts the 12th o' June
"since" you work at 5 any other news we need to know or want to know
since" you work at 5 any other news we need to know or want to know
yea the morning team just got big bonuses for jumping to 2nd place. John london will have the feature story every night. Bina roy is going to a bigger market to be a weekend anchor. Thats it for now
where is Vara going ?
I think that channel 9's weather channel is as local as their newscast.
Money is changing hands in the WLW / Channel 5 deal. Word on the street is 5 is paying 700 a quarter million a year.
Again I was not pleased with your election result coverage of Clermont county. There were only sporatic reports all evening and never complete results. Our Board Of Elections had the complete results posted on their web site at 9:26 PM election day and available to anyone with a computer. Gary Hutchinson
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